Join Alex, Malakai, and Lucas Ortner as they explore how to build wealth, health, happiness, and character — all without a traditional college path.
Alex is a father, entrepreneur, and the driving force behind Instead of College. With decades of real-world business experience, he's on a mission to give his sons — and every young person — the tools to build a life worth living.
Malakai is a young entrepreneur and co-founder of Instead of College. He's building real-world skills, wealth, and freedom — all without following the traditional college path.
Lucas is a young entrepreneur and co-founder of Instead of College. He brings curiosity, energy, and a fresh perspective to every conversation about building a life on your own terms.
Alex, Malakai, and Lucas sit down for the very first episode of Instead of College. They talk about why they started this podcast, what school never taught them, and the real-world lessons that are shaping their futures. Raw, unfiltered, and real...
Tune in!Every episode is a real conversation — no scripts, no fluff.
Real financial education — investing, business, money mindset, and creating multiple income streams early.
Physical and mental health habits that set you up for a lifetime of energy and resilience.
Integrity, discipline, gratitude, and the qualities that matter more than any degree.
Starting businesses, learning to sell, solving problems, and thinking like an entrepreneur.
How to think differently, overcome fear, and develop an unstoppable growth mindset.
Honest conversations about family, friendship, and building the relationships that matter most.
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