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Join Alex Ortner and his sons as they explore how to build wealth, health, happiness, and character — all without a traditional college path.

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Alex Ortner

Alex is a father, entrepreneur, and lifelong learner who believes the best education doesn't come from a classroom — it comes from real experience, mentorship, and intentional living.

On the Instead of College podcast, Alex shares raw, unfiltered conversations with his sons Malakai and Lucas about building wealth, developing character, staying healthy, and designing a life on your own terms.

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What We Talk About

Every episode is a real conversation — no scripts, no fluff.

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Building Wealth

Real financial education — investing, business, money mindset, and creating multiple income streams early.

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Health & Fitness

Physical and mental health habits that set you up for a lifetime of energy and resilience.

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Character & Values

Integrity, discipline, gratitude, and the qualities that matter more than any degree.

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Entrepreneurship

Starting businesses, learning to sell, solving problems, and thinking like an entrepreneur.

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Mindset & Growth

How to think differently, overcome fear, and develop an unstoppable growth mindset.

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Family & Relationships

Honest conversations about family, friendship, and building the relationships that matter most.

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